A talk with the Obamanation

[Knock knock] Are you in there? Obamanation? Are you awake? I want to talk to you, are you decent? Good. I'm coming in then. I want to talk to you. Yes now. Don't you roll your eyes at me!

We need to talk about how you disrespect me and my friend Hillary. All this talk about her lying and cheating and bringing up her mariage problems? Using the "B" word and the "C" word in front of me? It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to her and it's disrespectful to me. I need you to think about that.

It's women like Hillary who made it possible for your friend, what was his name? Oh yes, for your friend Ba rrack, did I say that right? Okay, for your friend Ba rrack to have the opportunities you young people have in this country. She co-created the SCHIPS program, did you know that? She forced the Wallmart Corporation, all by herself, in the 1970's, to examine it's sexist hiring practices. she shaped the Family Medical Leave Act and pushed it through Congress so I could stay home with you when you broke your arm. Do you remember that?
She fought for and won teaching standards for poor public school children in Arkansas, did you know that? And now there's a whole generation of young adults in Arkansas, black and white, the first, to not suffer for a third world education. She forced the country to look at adoption practices and family law and wrote the standards for it we still use today. She chaired the American Bar Association panel that first set standards to address discrimination against women in the legal system.

Before you were born, when your friend Barrack was a teenager, Hillary Clinton was out there fighting, just her and a very few strong women like her, against sexism in the courts and discriminatory hiring practices, for tougher domestic violence laws to protect women and children -- she was calling attention for the first time to the treatment of women in Islamic and third world countries. She helped make violence illegal against women like Barrack's mother, she helped create those career opportunities for his wife, she made the world, not just this country, safer for girls and young women like his daughters.

She didn't do it alone, but back then there weren't too many other women out there able to help her. And she did it at a time when women weren't supposed to work outside of the home and have real careers, let alone change the world. She did it at a time when women were still second class citizens in this country, when it took being a truly exceptional woman just to get into college. she did it when being a woman in the work world was a difficult task all by itself, regardless of what the job was.

Before there was Oprah, before someone like Oprah could even get an interview, Hillary Clinton was out there slugging for her to get that opportunity. When Caroline Kennedy was still wearing pony pajamas Hillary Clinton was fighting for Caroline's right to have children and a career.

When you call her a "bitch" you are using the same ugly diminishing word that was used to hold her and all women back at that time. Do you understand that? Do you understand that calling her a bitch is akin to calling Barrack Obama a nigger? Do you understand that's the word sexists used to denigrate all women? To subjegate women? to justify violence, discrimination and ulgy abominations against women I can't even describe?

Excuse me sweetie but how dare you talk that way to me, use that word in front of me, use that word to describe her. You wouldn't have the schools you have, the opportunities you have, the protections you had as a child without "bitches" like Hillary Clinton.

no. no. don't you daaare interrupt me. I'm talking now and you're going to listen. I don't want to hear one more word of that crap those sexist vile old bastards have been spitting at her and women like her for 40 years. Not one more fucking word of it, do you hear me? I'm done listening to you trash talk someone who has dedicated her life to making your mother's life safer and fighting for what I deserve. you want to talk about policy, fine. We can talk all night. but I won't hear one more fucking thing about her marriage, her personality or what you and your little friends seem to think of her character. with your, what is it? Five years or so of adult wisdom.

Just what in the hell do you even know about marriage? Or what it's like to be married to an unfaithful man. What. Tell me. Then tell me all you know about "character". and while you're at it, tell me what you know about change.

Do you mean change, as in, let's see, bringing the role of women in this country out of the Middle Ages? Or do you mean change as in getting up every fucking morning for 40 fucking years and fighting for it? Or do you mean living it, with every damn step you make by standing up and refusing to fit the mold you were pounded into. Exactly what kind of "change" are you talking about.

Oh. sorry. I forgot. We're talking about "hope" now. Do you mean "hope" as in "I hope I live long enough to see women the true equals of men?" Because that's what I've been hoping to see change since 1965. It's the hope I've kept alive for you and every daughter and sister out there for close to fifty years.

One last thing. Do you know what happened last night? A woman, a woman, won the California primary for president of the United States. Do you know the first California primary I remember? It was the horrific one back in 1968. I remember watching Huntley and Brinkley try to project the winner and what the outcome would mean, hours before the worst happened. I watched intently because my sister was stumping for Kennedy in Indiana a couple weeks before. You know what? Back then I could have never even imagined a woman winning the California primary or any primary or even running for president. It wasn't that it had not yet been done. No. It was unimaginable, like a 10th color in the spectrum or travel to the nearest star.

And last night I watched Hillary Clinton win the California primary. And New York's. And Massachusetts', New Jersey's, Tennessee's, Arizona's. Not bad for and old evil bitch who's never "accomplished" anything on her own.

So understand something, Obamation, every time you insult her, you insult me. And you insult every woman who busted their ass in the workworld, in our communities, in our homes, to move us all closer to true equality and make possible this great "hope" you all are now able to have. Don't forget who gave you life and wiped your ass and made you do your homework and changed your laws and gave you decent schools and blew out the barriers and made some real change happen so you could even entertain the idea of "hoping" for anything.

Now, pick up the rest of your socks. Breakfast is ready and you're late for school.



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Re: A talk with the Obamanation (2.00 / 1)

Pardon the patronizing for a second and let me give you a hug.  

Okay, now that that's over with, I'm an Obama supporter and don't ever recall using any derogatory words toward Hillary.  These words like misogynist or racist or sexist just don't mean anything to most people.  People in the blogosphere need to chill out and just sit back and enjoy this ride.  

Your candidate did great last night, and so did mine.  The two leading Democratic candidates are unthinkable!  A woman and a black man?!  This is fantastic for our party (and damn it, our country).

Let's just leave it at this and get on with our election... how about some interesting issue debates for a change?


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:23:36 PM EST

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Wow. I have never said this. But what a great diary. Thanks!


by praxis1 on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:26:44 PM EST

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Love it.  This should be sent as an editorial to newspapers.


by susie on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:36:12 PM EST

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Yes... perhaps it could woo over some of those Obama voters that you just insulted.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:48:36 PM EST
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Humorous comment above.


by susie on Fri Feb 08, 2008 at 12:22:56 AM EST
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Great diary (1.00 / 1)

You have to understand the Obamamaniacs.   They picture Obama as the cool black friend that they never actually had in school.    Its twisted I know.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:40:35 PM EST

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Yeah... the only reason I'm supporting Obama is because he's a cool black dude.  It couldn't actually be because of THIS
could it?  

Like I said... the blogosphere needs to chill out and accept the fact that these two candidates aren't going away for a long time.  Not sure how this is going to be resolved, but this name calling business and finger in the eye isn't going to heal any wounds.  


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:47:07 PM EST
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There is no there there. No this. (none / 0)

Wheres the beef?


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:51:41 PM EST
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Re: There is no there there. No this. (none / 0)

The link doesn't work for you or something?


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:08:54 PM EST
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Its fluff, pretty words, thats all Barry offers (none / 0)


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:13:14 PM EST
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Re: There is no there there. No this. (none / 0)

I don't eat beef.

Thanks to Bush it probably has Mad Cow.


by MNPundit on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:26:04 PM EST
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I think it is because of this (none / 0)

Shout out to the Choom Gang!

http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/wp-content/u ploads/2007/01/Barry-Obama-lg.jpg

Word.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:53:13 PM EST
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Re: I think it is because of this (none / 0)

LOLOLOLOL!  

Where did you find that?  Is it legit, or Photoshoped?

Priceless.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:19:54 PM EST
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legit (none / 0)


by dpANDREWS on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:21:47 PM EST
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Re: legit (none / 0)

"We go play hoop" LOL!
Awesome... Yeah, he's for sure the cool kid you describe, then.  I knew there was a reason I supported him.
by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:43:15 PM EST
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google (none / 0)

Choom gang


by dpANDREWS on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 10:39:20 AM EST
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Re: Great diary (none / 0)

Wow. What a gross response to a great diary.


by cecilybecily on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 07:20:03 PM EST
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The diarist does have a point about calling her a bitch.  I just tell friends that she's a less desirable candidate than the one I've chosen to support.  

Let's just leave the B word out of it.

The diarist could learn a lesson from this high road as well (insert rolling of the eyes here).


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:43:09 PM EST

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Grand Theft Auto is your #1 issue?  

Lame.  Come on, dude.  Hardly worthy of calling Hillary a B.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:18:03 PM EST
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yes it is, because i don't like censorship of media,especially when that censorship has no logic behind it.

the game was rated ma and she wanted to change it to ao, the equivalent of XXX which destroys it's ability to make money, and all because it had a sex scene.

her actions were unjustifiable.


by Soltare on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 05:09:42 PM EST
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If this is typical of Obama supporters and they think his stance on this kind of stuff in acceptable to the voting population then you're in for a major shock if he's the nominee come November.


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by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:48:06 PM EST
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You want to talk to Obama supporters, possibly you should consider DKos - don't think there are many left on MyDD


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by X Stryker on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:45:47 PM EST

another Obama supporter here! (none / 0)

This is such BS. You've never seen any of this stuff emanating from the campaign. As far as supporters, you're going to find racists, sexist types in every campaign. Deal with it. The US has had no problem in recent history, with electing women to congress, the senate, and as governors. Do you think the hatred of HRC has something to do with her absolute refusal to admit fault, fundamental dishonesty, lack of openness and a whole host of other policy differences?    


by highgrade on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:07:37 PM EST
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There is no greater dishonesty than when Obama says he does not take money from lobbyist.  The truth of the matter is that he does!  Check out www.fec.gov for list of contributors, etc., for his campaign called "Obama for America."  He lies like WJC.......


by findthesource on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 05:02:51 PM EST
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Stop with the name calling, man.  It doesn't help your case at all.

It's not "fun" or interesting, and I'm saying this as an Obama supporter.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:11:21 PM EST
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Wow...did you just ever make the diarist's point.


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:47:40 PM EST

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Again, I say WOW. All this vitiol over a video game? You are upset because you had to be 18 instead of 17 to buy it?! How old are you? Are you old enough to vote? Old enough to buy the game?

I should hardly think that the future of our nation should be decided over a video game.


by americanincanada on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:09:05 PM EST
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censorship mofo, do you understand it's risk to democracy?

also, irony.


by Soltare on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 05:10:42 PM EST
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I'm not going to disclose my gender, but I will tell you I'm not female.  For right or wrong, my main desire for a President Hillary is my daughter.  She is 4, and I would love for when she comes of age, the idea of a glass ceiling for women is crushed.  Hopefully by the time she starts thinking of what career or goals she has for herself, she can read in the history books about President Hillary.  It will seem normal to her that a woman can be president, CEO, professional athlete, etc.  Hopefully she lives in a world where her instict is to take that for granted - she's a woman and has the same opportunities as her younger brother.


by oaktownchicken on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:48:10 PM EST

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My daughter is 2-1/2. I would really like for her to never remember a time "before there was a female President". But if I had a boy, I think I'd feel the same. Boys will be much better off in the future if the grow up with healthy images of strong women too.


by LakersFan on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 03:57:11 PM EST
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Dude, knock it off!  Quit the name calling, and just accpet the fact that she's earning a lot of votes.  It doesn't help my candidate, Obama, to know that there are people like you out there snipping over worthless words.  

Chill everybody, and just soak in the moment of our party possibly nominating a black person or a woman.  Very cool.


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:16:02 PM EST

Re: A talk with Clinton nation. (none / 0)

Our mission is not to deride Senator Clinton. We want to promote our candidate only.

Senator Clinton is a fine democrat and a smart candidate.

I prefer Senator Obama. End of my rant.


by hawkjt on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:23:07 PM EST

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Your post made me smile. It's good to see someone very passionate about their candidate of choice. More power you, but we out-organized your candidate in all the states that I am personally involved in so while I appreciate your message.... (wait for it!)

....I don't think she'd make the best president.

I also don't think it's particularly mature of you to lace your post with ageist phrases that are calculated to insult a certain demographic.

But hey, your diary right? I recommended it anyway.


by MNPundit on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:31:26 PM EST

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I am an Obama supporter who has real distaste for all things Clinton and, personally, I have never heard other Obama supporter's call her a "B" or a "C." Not saying it didn't happen -- and I apologize, on behalf of all the civil Obama people out there -- for that.

I would like to point out that at last night's Obama rally we missed most of Hillary's speech because they were testing the microphones and lights. But a lot of people there wanted to hear it because they're planning (unlike me) to support her in the general if she gets the nomination.

The rest of this post is kind of weak.


by DoubleDs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:44:13 PM EST

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That's good to know. Perhaps you should talk to some of your fellow bloggers. They're doing your candidate a great big disservice.


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by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:50:47 PM EST
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It doesn't help that yours is calling me sexist.  


by IowaCubs on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 04:56:06 PM EST
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at least they didn't insinuate you were anti-semetic.


by Soltare on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 05:15:39 PM EST
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kike is a racial slur.
 bitch, in common usage, is not a sexist term per se.

And they are hardly comparable on a scale.
 i call Lieberman a douchebag of the highest order as well as a crackpot.

And chuck gets the same treatement and distaste.

in fact i consider him worse, he wanted to take the game 25-2-life completely off the market.
 that's an absolutly ridiculous position, and completely outside the scope of his authority.

and attempting to insinuate that i am a racist is complete bullshit, fallacies are for trash and republicans.


by Soltare on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 05:14:55 PM EST

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i don't think it's okay to call any woman a bitch, just the ones i dislike, this goes to men as well, i call them bitches all the time/
i'm not sexist, i don't think women are inferior, i judge people based on their actions, and hers were most displeasing to me.
 joe liebermans are worse.
 by his logic video games are the number one killer of students at school.
by Soltare on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 07:35:44 PM EST
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Great diary. I have always felt Hillary was a very strong capable woman and I like having her as a role model for myself. I understand that there has been some name calling on both sides, having do with gender and race. I am an avid Obama fan, but never let people disrespect Hillary because of the fact that she is an intelligent woman.

I think both candidates deserve the same respect for being such powerful and amazing people.


by cecilybecily on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 07:26:29 PM EST


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