"Who we are without the extreme tensions" Why Are You A Democrat?

ChrisBlask included this line in a comment he posted to another thread
"It will be interesting to see who we all are without the extreme tensions."  He was making the point that our loyalty to candidates is polarizing, while perhaps the facts of who we are and what we do might begin to unite us.
I think he's dead on point.  All of the true progressives and Democrats here have been brought to this fight for a reason that supercedes and preceeds any primary race.  And each of us manifests our core beliefs through different progressive passions, I assume.  

I think the anonymity of the blogs brings us to forget that -- that among our ranks we have dedicated and empassioned environmentalists, unionists and advocates for a range of progressive causes.  It is these causes that unite us, even as we each perhaps give our energy to one over all others, we still share support for most if not all the line items in the progressive agenda.

I would challenge the folks here to tell us a little about yourself in the comment thread -- what brought you to the Democratic Party, what causes you fight for and how, what classes or experiences have sparked your fire --  WITHOUT MENTIONING CANDIDATES!~

Please resist the urge to add -- "and that's why I support/hate Clinton/Obama.  Please.  I think we'll find, if enough people give it a shot, that we are indeed all in the same boat and just need to respect each other's paddling.

I'll start in the first comment.  HOPEFULLY others will follow.
So...what's your story?  Who are you, without the "extreme tension"?



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Grassrootsorganizer (none / 0)

I am a union organizer.  I consider it my job to fight corporate evil by organizing working people to value their work, fight for control over thier worklives and stand together in Solidarity.  I am dedicated to the organizing of all disempowered persons to the power of collective action.  

Much of my work involved finding strangers' doors, knocking on them, praying someone answers the door and then trying through conversation to engage them in a process.  I see unions, traditional and non-traditional, as the best answer out there for directly effecting the lives of the poor working class and their families.


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:01:46 PM EST

I would love to get together with some Obama folk (2.00 / 1)

to work towards goals we commonly believe in (even if the Obama campaign may not)

Many Obama supporters have said they support universal healthcare. Many Obama supporters have said they support affordable housing and economic sustainability. I am not so stupid that I don't see the common ground. I am a pragmatist. I don't want to see the Democrats divided.

However, I can't sit idly by and see the election stolen by a wolf in sheeps clothing.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:04:59 PM EST

okay, but... (none / 0)

what do you do?  What brought you to this?  How are you working towards healthcare reform outside of this primary debate?  Why is healthcare your top issue?


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:08:06 PM EST
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A healthcare and justice coverup (none / 0)

Something I need to write about but which still makes me too emotional to write clearly about.

Words don't describe how many lives it has ruined. People you know, people everybody knows.

But especially the poor. It is a MAJOR cause of ruined lives - and it could be addressed by just a little bit of COMMON SENSE.

The warnings on this go back to the Bible. I am not kidding. And I am not talking about morality, I'm talking about something very basic, health wise.

What is making this society fall apart is always driven by GREED.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:48:17 PM EST
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Common sense but we also need research (none / 0)

Are you a doctor or a health policy person?


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:49:43 PM EST
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Re: Common sense but we also need research (none / 0)

I'm a medical student but i feel passionately about universal health care and coming up with a solution to care for all americans.


Elections 2008 Best reality show ever!!!
by kbal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:04:35 PM EST
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Re: I would love to get together with some Obama f (none / 0)

I suport obama in this election but if he steps into office he will need to be pressured too. Coorporate america doesn't just elect there guy to office and then leave it at that. They elect him into offcice and then turn up the heat to get their agenda adressed. Politicians respond to pressure regardless of who it is.
I'm in medicine and health care and the environment are important issues to me.
Elections 2008 Best reality show ever!!!
by kbal on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:26:27 PM EST
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I hate Republicans and what they have done to my (none / 0)

country with every fiber of my being.
I care about the environment.
I care about poverty.
I care about global warming.
I care about worker's rights.
I care about a woman's right to chose.
I despair over the death and destruction we brought to the people of Iraq.
I despair over the death and destructions of our soldiers for this effin lie of a war. Those who are dead. And those who are all but dead at Walter Reed.
I have always cared about these things.
Substitute this war for any other war we fought in the last 30 years.

I will vote for a Democratic. Always have. Always will.
Republicans are death, hate and murder of everything that is good and right and just.
Therefore, any Democrat who says they will vote for McCain is a Republican p.o.s. and should be forced to wear a sign on their ass that says "I am an ignorant moran who hates my country."
I will call them this from this point forward.
I will most likely be banned because of this.
I no longer care.
McCain is a evil son a bitch who will take us to hell for another four years if he gets his way.
Not worthy to stand even in the presense of Barack or HIllary.

Sorry. Not exactly how I was supposed to do this.  


I support our nominee President Barack Obama - and the Admins can't stand me, so I can't rec or rate. This is very mean if you were to ask me.
by TheFullBerry on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:19:28 PM EST

A terrific question and I thank you (none / 0)

Why am I a Democrat?  I have been asked this question numerous times here because I have espoused views that run contrary to what may be the mainstream attitudes on this site.  Generally, these questions have been posed in an accusatory manner so I have ignored them.  Since yours is not, I will be very happy to answer.

I guess my reason for being a Democrat could best be summarized by the words of Gene Taylor.  Gene Taylor represents SE Mississippi, a district that likely would have a Republican congressman if he were not in the seat.  Taylor is probably the closest thing we have today to an old fashioned boll weevil Democrat.  

Taylor had been asked on numerous occasions why he remained a Democrat when so many other Southern Democrats crossed party lines.  He said the he believed the Democratic party still best represented the interests of working people.

My bottom line is Taylor's bottom line.  I do value and respect the interests of capital, but I believe Republican policies too often show a clear preference for the value of capital over the value of labor.  Certainly, Republican values and policies have changed over the years, but on the issue of valuing capital over labor (or even over consumer/public interest and safety), the GOP has been remarkably consistent over time.

However, after spending months on the left netroots, I realize that, despite whatever other principles we may share, too many people on these pages share views that are an anathema to me and I'm beginning to feel that the numbers holding these views in the Democratic party are much larger than I thought previously.  I don't know what to do about that.  I have identified as a Democrat for over 30 years and first voted for president in 1976.  I would have a very hard time switching to the Republican party, but it may be time for me to more appropriately consider myself an independent.  Perhaps I find myself feeling a little like those Libertarians who can't call themselves Republicans because of their profound disagreements with certain elements of the GOP who demand conformity to certain social "values."  


by lombard on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:30:30 PM EST

I am a Democrat because (2.00 / 1)

I believe in fiscal responsibility ala PayGo.

I am a Democrat because I want the government to spend my tax dollars to make things better for ordinary people in this country and in other countries.  We are the ones talking about health care, about education, poverty, veterans rights, social security, etc.

I am a Democrat because the Democratic Party is the only real major political party.  The Republican Party is organized crime on an international scale.

Lots more reasons but you get the drift.


No Way, No How, No McCain!
by GFORD on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:33:30 PM EST

Hit the nail on the head.. (2.00 / 1)

>The Republican Party is organized crime on an international scale.

This is right on.

Not for all of them, MANY of the rank and file are good people who have simply bought the lie, because its so pervasive, especially in the red states.

But I do think it is true for the core of the Bush administration and many (all? I hope not, but I would not be surprised) in the GOP leadership.

But, as we have seen, even some of them sometimes have Eureka moments where they realize that they are fighting for the wrong things and then EVEN THEY are DEPENDING on us to KEEP OUR SIDE OF THE BARGAIN.

:o


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:29:45 PM EST
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Why do you want to know? (none / 0)

Is it so you and others can judge whether we are "real" Democrats? I've been a Democrat for 28 years. I've voted for every Democratic nominee that the DNC has offered. I simply will not vote for a Republican.

However, this is the first time in my life that I've been so utterly discouraged by the prospect of such a wholly inadequate candidate, that I've seriously considered not voting in the general election. The Florida/Michigan issue just exacerbates that feeling. The only, only, only saving grace for Obama to me, should he be the nominee, is that McCain is worse, and our country is in such trouble that it will not survive even one term of him, that I would be forced to vote for Obama. It's tragic that so many of us will vote for Obama ONLY because he is the anti-McCain. It's certainly not a position that I expected to have in 2008.

by zenful6219 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:35:47 PM EST

This author seems sincere and inclusive to me (none / 0)

If I felt your suspicion, I wouldn't have answered the question.


by lombard on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:28:32 PM EST
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This is me... (none / 0)

I am a stay at home mom and student living in rural Wisconsin.  I have three daughters--10 year old twins and an 8 year old--and one son who is 5.  My husband and I were highschool sweethearts and have been married for almost 10 years.

I've told the story before, but to boil it down, I am a Democrat because of two people:  My abusive, mentally ill mother, and Bill Clinton.  

I am currently working on my Bachelor's degree in Human and Family Development with a concentration in Women's Studies.  My goal is to become a social worker and help women and children who were in a similar situation as I was growing up.  At the rate I'm going, I'll graduate from college sometime after my 5 year old does ;)

My husband and I bought an old house last year, built in 1880.  We are working on renovating it and making it as green as possible.  We hope to get some solar panels on the roof sometime before we die.

My main concerns (aside from getting out of this war) are the environment, healthcare, reproductive rights, and education.  


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:36:55 PM EST

Very interesting story (none / 0)

Would you be willing to elaborate on the two reasons you gave for being a Democrat?  I'm not suggesting you should feel obligated to do that, but, if you are willing to, I'd like to hear the elaboration.


by lombard on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:15:43 PM EST
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Work and Politics (2.00 / 1)

I am the daughter of a "bleeding heart liberal" Mother and a reactionary republican father.  I remember going door to door for McGovern with my Mother and my father being the campaign chair for a (losing) State Senatorial bid.

As a young adult, I am part of the disillusioned generation, the one directly behind the baby boomers, the ones that were best parodied by Michael J. Fox in his role in Family Ties.  We grew up in an oil crisis to a high unemployment rate and very little possibility for advancement because the boomers were in all the jobs (at least that is how we saw it).

I voted for RayGun, but then during the era of PaPa Bush, something happened.  As a fiscal conservative social liberal, I found out the Republican Party didn't want me any more.  I had the Quail on TeeVee spouting about "Family Values" and decrying a television show about a single mother (Murphy Brown).  As a single mother myself, I was appalled.  I had been taught that Republicans stay the fuck out of your personal life...live and let live....boy was I wrong.

I searched for a home.  I checked out the libertarians, but they are crazy.  I voted for Perot, I voted for Clinton, not necessarily in that order.  Over the years as I have reexamined the Democratic Party and myself, I have found that a lot of the negative I was hearing was not real.

Now I am a Democrat that votes reliably Democratic.


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:43:29 PM EST

In fairness to Dan Quayle, (none / 0)

He did seem to understand that he had messed up.  I thought his appearances on commercials of local TV affiliates encouraging people to tune in for reruns of Murphy Brown were an amusing attempt to poke fun at himself.

However, I think the view that single parent families are an often "necessary evil" rather than
just another equal alternative is fairly mainstream.  I had been divorced myself and became a single parent so I understand how such a status often is unavoidable.  My own view, though, is that retaining just a morsel of guilt about the whole thing isn't so bad.


by lombard on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:26:44 PM EST

The best thing we could do to support families (none / 0)

is rebuild the economy with a focus on making it sustainable and resilient to blips in the global economic landscape.

I have a bit of a background in computer systems analysis and I am convinced that we can best do this by backing off a bit on the quest for efficiency and instead, recognizing that redundancy (not in the employment sense, I mean in the systems sense where it means that you duplicate some capacity so that if there is a sudden need, its there) can be positive.

We have seen a huge push to deconstruct businesses into their pieces and outsource everything that possibly could be, in the interest of shaving off every possible penny, but that basically requires treating people as if they were machines..

(Google Fredrick Winslow Taylor for the roots of this trend, the most influential American you have probably never heard of)

However, this is making our system so efficient that there is no room for slack, and also destroying jobs before there is anything to take their places- its a trend that in moderation is good but taken - as we are now, to extremes will lead us to disaster and a breakdown of the social contract.

I also believe that technology is moving much faster than many of us realize and that we are setting ourselves up to be broadsided by the rapidity of the technological changes of the next 10-20 years which will include a lot of job loss.

Not necessarily overseas, I mean job loss as technologies mature, and abilities fall into place, to do a lot of work using task-specific machines and software. Thats as big of a factor, if not bigger, than overseas job loss.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:44:21 PM EST
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Architek, that is all well and good (none / 0)

But having lived through divorce and seeing many others divorced, I know that the breakup of families cannot be attributed solely to economic explanations.  Families quite often split when there are significant economic disadvantages to all for doing so.


by lombard on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:48:53 PM EST
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Yes, of course.. I meant that marriage, family (none / 0)

find it very difficult to happen or be sustainable when there are very few jobs or when good jobs are disappearing.

Companies depend on there being a supply of employees which implies families, having children, good schools, etc. but they are not willing to put enough back into the economy for people to reproduce themselves properly, or to educate new employees, (instead, we increasingly rely on H1B immigrants with good educations)

This is just to get people past the age where they are raising children, let alone retire.

Supply and demand?


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:47:35 PM EST
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Re: This is me (none / 0)

I am a Democrat because I know what it's like to be African-American and poor in the United States.

I'm 43, married, two kids and I am a journalist.  For anyone who saw the film The Slums of Beverly Hills, you'll understand my plight.

My mother and grandparents believed in me and this country when it didn't believe in us.  My mother moved us to the 'burbs for a highly rated school system even though we could not afford it.

There were plenty of nights without electricity, heat and bare cupboards, but I got a hell of an education by public school standards and eventually earned my bachelors degree.

I realize that during the course of my life that I benefited from a number of social programs that were enacted by Democrats - affirmative action, welfare, food stamps.  Do any of you know how embarrassing it is to walk into a grocery store in a suburb with food stamps?  I prayed that none of my friends would see me.

In a nutshell that is why I am a Democrat, but I am also a pragmatic about my party affliation.  I refuse to deny that the Dems have had problems in the past.  In my view it took far too long for them to go from the mantra of "giving a handout" to "giving a hand up."

In all sincerity, my life experience has taught me one thing - if I can make it and be successful then everyone who is given the opportunity can do the same. I try to give back by mentoring.  I understand the need for social programs to help the poor, but having seen friends and family members abuse the welfare system, I look at it cautiously

I am a Democrat because I belive:

In the U.S. Constitution
A woman's right to choose
Planning for the future
Energy independence
Social justice
And a pragmatic NEW application of affirmative action policies.


I'm riding the Low Road Express. Join me at www.lowroadexpress.com
by LtWorf on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:35:43 PM EST

Thank you. (none / 0)

I am an Independent.  While I grew up Democrat I became disillusioned with the tenor of the hype and what I saw as assumed superiority of the party, the vilification of the "other side" of America, and the expenditure of enormous effort in pursuing points that do not achieve the greater good.

All of my youthful ideals I still hold fast:

o  Save the biosphere

o  Feed the world

o  Stop the "tyranny of evil men"

o  Improve the lives of all

My views of how to achieve these things is not what it was when I was young.  Redistributing exsting wealth is a terminal game - that wealth was created by work, by the sweat of hands and by intrinsic factors of the Free Enterprise capitalist system that this country has nurtured.  Simply spreading that wealth more thinly is a fool's errand.  Creating more wealth in the world and therefore the ability to pay for the food, the ships, the medicines - the very capability necesary to address the problems of the world is a goal I support.  With the capabilities in hand we can actually address the problems of the world with a realistic hope of success.

I am a Pragmatist.  As a career I had wandered into Information Security many years ago, and have found myself often arguing for imperfect solutions - because they are possible and can be implemented in the real world, not in a non-existent ideal world we would like to believe into existence.  The goal of moving the ball forward in a positive direction is more important to me than struggling for an immediate touchdown that will almost without doubt fail.  DADT is a good example - less than the solution to the problem, more than an impotent protest of existing injustices.

I am an American.  Having lived - in separated chunks - half my life in Canada, and having travelled some of the world, I have come to understand what an incredible place this is.  Warts and all.  An iterative line that has evolved from this experience is "the more time I spend outside the US, the more American I become".

-chris


"Because after an eight-year hiatus it is vital to have a president who leads the country instead of lassoing, roping and branding it." Shaun Appleby
by chrisblask on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:51:15 AM EST


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